Comments on: Mahalo and 37 Signals: Apples and Oranges http://nsputnik.com/2008/03/mahalo-and-37-signals-apples-and-oranges/ on marketing, music business, and web development Sun, 02 May 2010 22:13:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kontroverse Tipps für Startups um Geld einzusparen | Wuensch-Media.de http://nsputnik.com/2008/03/mahalo-and-37-signals-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-50927 Kontroverse Tipps für Startups um Geld einzusparen | Wuensch-Media.de Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:11:59 +0000 http://nsputnik.com/?p=177#comment-50927 [...] sich auch aktuelle und ehemalige Mitarbeiter in ihren Blogs in die Diskussion eingeschaltet (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). Insgesamt also eine sehr interessante Diskussion, die hinter die Kulissen der Web 2.0 [...] [...] sich auch aktuelle und ehemalige Mitarbeiter in ihren Blogs in die Diskussion eingeschaltet (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). Insgesamt also eine sehr interessante Diskussion, die hinter die Kulissen der Web 2.0 [...]

]]> By: ZDNet.de IT-Business-Blog » Blog Archiv » Krieg um Profi-Tipps f?r Unternehmensgr?nder http://nsputnik.com/2008/03/mahalo-and-37-signals-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-50925 ZDNet.de IT-Business-Blog » Blog Archiv » Krieg um Profi-Tipps f?r Unternehmensgr?nder Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:12:23 +0000 http://nsputnik.com/?p=177#comment-50925 [...] aber ist, dass auch ehemalige und Noch-Mitarbeiter sowie Freunde von Calacanis einstimmen (hier, hier, hier, hier, hier und hier) und ihre Erfahrungen von der anderen Seite zur Geh?r bringen. [...] [...] aber ist, dass auch ehemalige und Noch-Mitarbeiter sowie Freunde von Calacanis einstimmen (hier, hier, hier, hier, hier und hier) und ihre Erfahrungen von der anderen Seite zur Geh?r bringen. [...]

]]> By: Nick Dynice http://nsputnik.com/2008/03/mahalo-and-37-signals-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-50906 Nick Dynice Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:06:23 +0000 http://nsputnik.com/?p=177#comment-50906 @Stilgherrian, Show us the Mahalo employee in poor health. This is all spin, spin, spin. @Stilgherrian,

Show us the Mahalo employee in poor health. This is all spin, spin, spin.

]]> By: Nick Dynice http://nsputnik.com/2008/03/mahalo-and-37-signals-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-50905 Nick Dynice Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:59:28 +0000 http://nsputnik.com/?p=177#comment-50905 @Marcos, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mohandas Gandhi I can't wait for phase 4! @Marcos,

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
Mohandas Gandhi

I can’t wait for phase 4!

]]> By: Marcos Gonzalez http://nsputnik.com/2008/03/mahalo-and-37-signals-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-50903 Marcos Gonzalez Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:14:51 +0000 http://nsputnik.com/?p=177#comment-50903 Mahalo "a sweatshop powered search engine" Mahalo “a sweatshop powered search engine”

]]> By: » How I Went From Picking up Your Crap to Reading It - seanpercival.com http://nsputnik.com/2008/03/mahalo-and-37-signals-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-50901 » How I Went From Picking up Your Crap to Reading It - seanpercival.com Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:44:38 +0000 http://nsputnik.com/?p=177#comment-50901 [...] Nick and Mark have some thoughts as [...] [...] Nick and Mark have some thoughts as [...]

]]> By: sean percival http://nsputnik.com/2008/03/mahalo-and-37-signals-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-50898 sean percival Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:18:01 +0000 http://nsputnik.com/?p=177#comment-50898 Hey Nick, very well said. When is some smart startup going to hire and overwork you? ;) Hey Nick, very well said. When is some smart startup going to hire and overwork you? ;)

]]> By: Stilgherrian http://nsputnik.com/2008/03/mahalo-and-37-signals-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-50897 Stilgherrian Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:14:01 +0000 http://nsputnik.com/?p=177#comment-50897 Nick, I'm glad you've made this point about Jason Calicanis and 37signals being "apples vs oranges". I agree thoroughly -- and that's precisely why I wrote a follow-up post explaining why <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/internet/calacanis_boosts_profile/" rel="nofollow">employers like Calicanis are dangerous</a>. Yes, the two businesses have different goals. Yes, Calicanis is about VC funding and all that "exponential growth" stuff. That "money and fast growth before all else" attitude is truly disgusting and, indeed, dangerous. If Calicanus <em>et al</em> always treat fast money as the goal, and screw the health implications for their employees, then I'll bet they care even less about other, non-employee humans or anything else on the planet. This short-term focus of profits above all else is, I repeat, dangerous. For us all. Nick, I’m glad you’ve made this point about Jason Calicanis and 37signals being “apples vs oranges”. I agree thoroughly — and that’s precisely why I wrote a follow-up post explaining why employers like Calicanis are dangerous.

Yes, the two businesses have different goals. Yes, Calicanis is about VC funding and all that “exponential growth” stuff. That “money and fast growth before all else” attitude is truly disgusting and, indeed, dangerous.

If Calicanus et al always treat fast money as the goal, and screw the health implications for their employees, then I’ll bet they care even less about other, non-employee humans or anything else on the planet.

This short-term focus of profits above all else is, I repeat, dangerous. For us all.

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